Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun

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Seoul with population of over 10 mil. has been expanding the bike lane. Still, only few people(mostly junior or high students) are using it for going to school. Surveyed main reasons not using the bike lane are safety, weather, missing link.
 
Jongho Rhee
Dept. of Urban & Transportation Eng.
Kyonggi University
Suwon and Seoul, Korea
 
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    보낸 사람: Wendell Cox <wcox at publicpurpose.com>
    받는 사람: sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org <sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org>
    날짜: 2000년 2월 23일 수요일 오후 9:18
    제목: [sustran] Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun
    
    
    Similar findings have been determined with respect to commuting in central London. The question is the extent to which this is the case. Not likely to be so virtually anywhere in North America or Oceania.
    
     
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Francis PAPON 
        To: sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org 
        Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 3:50 AM
        Subject: Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun
        
        
        
        Well my commute in the suburbs of Paris is 55 min by bike. It would be 1h35 by rail and 2 hours by bus (and uniformely distributed between 30 min and 1h30 by car).
        To be more general the average commercial speed of buses in Paris is below 10 km/h, which, taking into account waiting times and longer routes is often not faster than a brisk walk. 
        Survey data show that door to door speeds for actual bicycle trips in France are better than those for public transport trips for distances up to 10 kilometres.
        
        
        
        ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendell Cox" <wcox at publicpurpose.com> To: 'sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org' Sent: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:57:52 -0600 PM Subject: Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun 
        > In the US, Canada and Western Europe it is quite normal for a bus or rail commute to take more than one-half hour over distances that could not be covered in a reasonable period by bicycle. 
        > ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:Jimmy.Tan at komag.com title=Jimmy.Tan at komag.com>Jimmy Tan To: 'sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org' Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun 
        > I'm not sure about rail, but if in the cities or within the city itself if a bus takes more then half an hour to travel >from one point to another( or even within the city and it's suburbs) , it's usually stuck in a traffic jam. Hence by using a bike, from my experience, uses fairly less time than buses or private vehicles(PVs).
        > 
        > As for rails and there is slightly any excuse for frequently delay that I would agree with you, Alok Jain. 
        > 
        >Pedal power Jimmy STEP 
        > 
        > 
        >-----Original Message----- From: Jain Alok [SMTP:ajain at kcrc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:24 AM To: 'sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org' Subject: [sustran] RE: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun 
        > 
        >Yeah...but where your commute takes over half an hour by bus or rail, bike cannot substitute. In big cities, I would consider bike's role more as feeder to rail transit or other public transport, with some sort of bike-sharing concept (to use at the destination end). 
        > 
        >Cheers Alok Jain 
        > 
        >-----Original Message----- From: Milnor H. Senior, III [mailto:msenior at uswest.net] Sent: February 22, 2000 5:43 AM To: sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org Subject: Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun 
        > 
        >In response to the comments made regarding the high cost of transit products the issue is a combination of high capital costs to build these rail products plus the operating costs which will always exceed fare revenues so that constant operating subsidies are required. I believe the answer lies in building transit infrastructure which can be built at an affordable cost and operated on a profit making basis by private enterprises so that no public subsidies are required. Please examine the web site www.biketrans.com to see an example of the type of transit infrastructure which can exceed the carrying capacity of highway lanes, most light rail systems and which offers higher speeds in congested urban areas. The System is not only less expensive to build and operate than current transit products but the real savings will come from the improvement in public health which will result from building exercise back into normal life activities. With cardiovascular disease as the number one cause of death in the US and with obesity increasing at an alarming rate it is time to consider making changes that benefit both human health and the environment while lowering transportation costs. Bicycling is the most efficient form of transportation known and expanding its use within our transportation system should be used to solve urban congestion problems. Sincerely, Milnor H. Senior, III President - Bicycle Transportation Systems, Inc. 
        
        
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