[sustran] Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun

Ryan Russo rrusso at uclink4.berkeley.edu
Tue Feb 22 12:09:56 JST 2000


the bikeway is an interesting idea.  a proforma on costs and maybe
revenues would do your website well if possible.


At 06:35 PM 2/21/00 -0800, you wrote: 

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<excerpt>RE: [sustran] RE: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun 


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<color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param> I'm not sure about rail, but if in
the cities or within the city itself if a bus takes more then half an
hour to travel from one point to another( or even within  the city and
it's suburbs) , it's usually stuck in a traffic jam. Hence by using a
bike, from my experience, uses fairly less time than buses or private
vehicles(PVs).</color></bigger><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param> 


<bigger> As for rails and there is slightly any excuse for frequently
delay that I would agree with you, Alok Jain. </bigger> 


<bigger>Pedal power</bigger> 

<bigger>Jimmy</bigger> 

<bigger>STEP</bigger> 


-----Original Message----- 

<bold>From:  </bold> Jain Alok [SMTP:ajain at kcrc.com] 

<bold>Sent:  </bold> Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:24 AM 

<bold>To:    </bold> 'sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org' 

<bold>Subject:       </bold> [sustran] RE: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun 


<bigger>Yeah...but where your commute takes over half an hour by bus or
rail, bike</bigger> 

<bigger>cannot substitute. In big cities, I would consider bike's role
more as</bigger> 

<bigger>feeder to rail transit or other public transport, with some sort
of</bigger> 

<bigger>bike-sharing concept (to use at the destination end).</bigger> 


<bigger>Cheers</bigger> 

<bigger>Alok Jain</bigger> 


<bigger>-----Original Message-----</bigger> 

<bigger>From: Milnor H. Senior, III
[<underline><<mailto:msenior at uswest.net>mailto:msenior at uswest.net</underline>]</bigger> 

<bigger>Sent: February 22, 2000 5:43 AM</bigger> 

<bigger>To: sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org</bigger> 

<bigger>Subject: Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun</bigger> 


<bigger>In response to the comments made regarding the high cost of
transit products</bigger> 

<bigger>the</bigger> 

<bigger>issue is a combination of high capital costs to build these rail
products</bigger> 

<bigger>plus</bigger> 

<bigger>the operating costs which will always exceed fare revenues so
that constant</bigger> 

<bigger>operating subsidies are required.  I believe the answer lies in
building</bigger> 

<bigger>transit</bigger> 

<bigger>infrastructure which can be built at an affordable cost and
operated on a</bigger> 

<bigger>profit</bigger> 

<bigger>making basis by private enterprises so that no public subsidies
are</bigger> 

<bigger>required.</bigger> 

<bigger>Please examine the web site www.biketrans.com to see an example
of the type</bigger> 

<bigger>of</bigger> 

<bigger>transit infrastructure which can exceed the carrying capacity of
highway</bigger> 

<bigger>lanes,</bigger> 

<bigger>most light rail systems and which offers higher speeds in
congested urban</bigger> 

<bigger>areas.  The System is not only less expensive to build and
operate than</bigger> 

<bigger>current</bigger> 

<bigger>transit products but the real savings will come from the
improvement in</bigger> 

<bigger>public</bigger> 

<bigger>health which will result from building exercise back into normal
life</bigger> 

<bigger>activities.  With cardiovascular disease as the number one cause
of death in</bigger> 

<bigger>the</bigger> 

<bigger>US and with obesity increasing at an alarming rate it is time to
consider</bigger> 

<bigger>making</bigger> 

<bigger>changes that benefit both human health and the environment while
lowering</bigger> 

<bigger>transportation costs.  Bicycling is the most efficient form
of</bigger> 

<bigger>transportation</bigger> 

<bigger>known and expanding its use within our transportation system
should be used</bigger> 

<bigger>to</bigger> 

<bigger>solve urban congestion problems.</bigger> 

<bigger>    Sincerely,</bigger> 

<bigger>    Milnor H. Senior, III</bigger> 

<bigger>    President - Bicycle Transportation Systems, Inc.</bigger> 



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