[sustran] Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun
Wendell Cox
wcox at publicpurpose.com
Tue Feb 22 10:57:52 JST 2000
RE: [sustran] RE: Cox & Litman V5 & BruunIn the US, Canada and Western Europe it is quite normal for a bus or rail commute to take more than one-half hour over distances that could not be covered in a reasonable period by bicycle.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jimmy Tan
To: 'sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org'
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun
I'm not sure about rail, but if in the cities or within the city itself if a bus takes more then half an hour to travel from one point to another( or even within the city and it's suburbs) , it's usually stuck in a traffic jam. Hence by using a bike, from my experience, uses fairly less time than buses or private vehicles(PVs).
As for rails and there is slightly any excuse for frequently delay that I would agree with you, Alok Jain.
Pedal power
Jimmy
STEP
-----Original Message-----
From: Jain Alok [SMTP:ajain at kcrc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:24 AM
To: 'sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org'
Subject: [sustran] RE: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun
Yeah...but where your commute takes over half an hour by bus or rail, bike
cannot substitute. In big cities, I would consider bike's role more as
feeder to rail transit or other public transport, with some sort of
bike-sharing concept (to use at the destination end).
Cheers
Alok Jain
-----Original Message-----
From: Milnor H. Senior, III [mailto:msenior at uswest.net]
Sent: February 22, 2000 5:43 AM
To: sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org
Subject: Re: Cox & Litman V5 & Bruun
In response to the comments made regarding the high cost of transit products
the
issue is a combination of high capital costs to build these rail products
plus
the operating costs which will always exceed fare revenues so that constant
operating subsidies are required. I believe the answer lies in building
transit
infrastructure which can be built at an affordable cost and operated on a
profit
making basis by private enterprises so that no public subsidies are
required.
Please examine the web site www.biketrans.com to see an example of the type
of
transit infrastructure which can exceed the carrying capacity of highway
lanes,
most light rail systems and which offers higher speeds in congested urban
areas. The System is not only less expensive to build and operate than
current
transit products but the real savings will come from the improvement in
public
health which will result from building exercise back into normal life
activities. With cardiovascular disease as the number one cause of death in
the
US and with obesity increasing at an alarming rate it is time to consider
making
changes that benefit both human health and the environment while lowering
transportation costs. Bicycling is the most efficient form of
transportation
known and expanding its use within our transportation system should be used
to
solve urban congestion problems.
Sincerely,
Milnor H. Senior, III
President - Bicycle Transportation Systems, Inc.
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