[sustran] Re: Question on Bus Drivers, Cash, Meal Reliefs

Duarte Rosa Filho duarterf at ez-poa.com.br
Sun Oct 17 02:22:36 JST 1999


Greetings from Brazil.
Take a look at the ILO home page: http://www.ilo.org.
There is the Agreement # 153, which deals with working and resting hours for
drivers.
Also, there is an European Agreement "concerning the work of crews of
vehicles engaged in international road transport (AETR), done at Geneva on 1
July 1970.
Hope it may help you.
Duarte
-----Mensagem original-----
De: Alan P Howes <alanhowes at usaksa.com>
Para: sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org <sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org>
Data: Sexta-feira, 15 de Outubro de 1999 16:26
Assunto: [sustran] Question on Bus Drivers, Cash, Meal Reliefs


>[re-pposting, as this message didn't seem to make it first time,
>probably due to an over-long "cc: list"]
>
>This message is going to three mailing lists and a number of
>individuals - apologies for any cross-posts or inappropriate
>addresses. If anyone would like to forward it to
>misc.transport.urban-transit, please do - but I don't get Usenet.
>
>I am conducting a straw poll on practices regarding Bus (or Tram!)
>Driver's responsibility for cash, and meal reliefs - the two are
>linked. My experience is mainly UK, plus what happens here in Saudi.
>
>As far as CASH responsibility is concerned, I know of three basic
>systems:
>
>1. Driver (operator) fully responsible for cash collected on bus. He
>has an "open till" or cash bag, makes change (perhaps helped by a
>machine), issues tickets, and is responsible to the company for cash
>up to the value of tickets issued. At the end of a "spell" on any one
>bus, he walks off with his money - perhaps at a garage, but need not
>be. Normally pays in at the end of his shift (duty, run), having
>counted his cash himself if he wishes. (But he might pay in next
>morning.) If he's short, it is docked from his pay. "Standard", but
>not universal, UK practice.
>
>2. Driver has no responsibility for cash whatsoever. Fares go into a
>farebox - driver responsibity normally limited to ensuring the right
>money goes into the box. Sometimes, the machine checks the cash(?).
>Cash (if any) taken off the bus at the end of the day. (Some UK
>companies - North America?)
>
>3. Between 1 and 2. There is a farebox, but the driver has
>responsibility for cash collected while he is on the bus. This
>normally means the driver and bus have to return to an operating
>location at the end of his spell on the bus. This is what we do here
>at SAPTCO - at least for the present.
>
>Now MEAL RELIEFS.
>
>Most bus drivers (in my experience) take a meal break (normally
>unpaid) of between 30 and 60 minutes somewhere in the middle of an
>eight-hour shift (duty, run). (Excluding split (spread) shifts, where
>the break can be 4 hours or more.) In the UK, I was used to a system
>whereby the bus kept rolling; a relief driver came onto the bus to
>maintain the headway. (Needs clever scheduling to optimise driver
>utilisation.) (I'm talking here mainly about urban, fixed headway
>services.)
>
>Here in Saudi, though, the bus takes a break with the driver,
>resulting in either a gap in the headway, or inefficient scheduling.
>(This is necessary because of (2) above.) This is not too bad with our
>current fleet of 1979 Neoplan 414's, but if/when we get new buses, we
>can't afford to let them lie idle. So I have to convince people that
>the way we do things currently is not the only way! (A common problem
>in bus operations.)
>
>SO, THESE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
>
>What practice(s) are normally followed in your country, or in others
>that you know?
>
>If more than one system, which is predominant, and why?
>
>Do you know of any significant variations on the three options for
>cash responsibility outlined above?
>
>Any other comments more than welcome. For instance, what about
>conductors? And OK, I know Smartcards etc. are the ultimate answer -
>but cash will be around for a while yet, particularly here.
>
>Cheers, Alan.
>--
>Alan Howes, Special Advisor (Operations)
>Saudi Public Transport Company, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
>alanhowes at usaksa.com
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