[sustran] Re: Curitiba & Jakarta's metro

[tjb]

I am visiting the Institute of Road Engineering, Bandung - just down the
road from you - for two weeks from tomorroe. Maybe we can meet up for a chat
about transport issues.

I'll give uyyou a call once I've settled in.
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Tony Barry
Barry HS Transit Systems
Kuala Lumpur

www.evalueco.com/barryhs


----- Original Message -----
From: Harun al-Rasyid Sorah Lubis <halubis at trans.si.itb.ac.id>
To: <sustran-discuss at jca.ax.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 1:27 PM
Subject: [sustran] Re: Curitiba & Jakarta's metro


> Who said, Go commitment  from the government of Indonesia has been
positive
> for subway in Jakarta ?
> The last time, say few month ago, through the Miyazawa plan (Japanese $$
> assistance), the plan official echoed the options "take it now" or "never"
> for Jakarta subway. Noted that at least 70% things are going to fly back
to
> Tokyo, plus the uncertainty of tariff affordability to maintain at least
> 55%-60% fairbox ratio, and couple with no guarantee  what sources  to be
> channelised for rest 40%. Uch...  Wait.... wait...
>
> For sure Indonesia are still struggling to sosialise more extensive urban
> pricing sources and mechanism, and for transport itself it is still very
> simplictic and conventional. Study on road user tax to impose axle factor
in
> annual license or registration of vehicle is yet to be sosialised, though,
> the study done 5 years ago.
>
> Public transport ? What you see out the window is a small top of the
iceberg
> in the ocean. Fundamental system is not yet there. This harm any technical
> or fiscal advocacy to improve public transport performance.
> Market growth for this pity and forgetful public service or obligation is
> very much relying on the natural growth of population as the potential
user.
> No room and hope from operator for attracting switch from the car users.
>
> See what happen at big terminal of public transport in Kampung Rambutan,
as
> a relocation of the old Cililitan.
> From technical reason is no reason what it become as chaotic as in old
> Cililitan, even more during this hard time of financial crisis where
> unemployed rates is unimaginable. You can just ask your cousin from
another
> village, giving him some small capital and set up a very small bisniss,
with
> no exit entry cost !!!!!  You just simply stand a stick and tie umbrella
and
> lay your stuff in bus terminal, and along the sidewalk approaching the
> terminal.
>
> Institutional planning framework is still not there. Public institutions
are
> very much having theirown objective functions, hopefull could dominate. No
> where and not yet, in the city, parking control could be an instrument for
> transport policy. Even the price of chilies can not be controlled,
> especially, when a rainy day  or flood comes.
>
> Within the new cabinet, now it seems to me, it is going to be even more
> tougher to speak of integrated planning and implementation, as more
> ministries have been set up, noticing they are very much link with
tranposrt
> issues. We are just going to wait, if old government had a decree of three
> ministries to deal with one issue of transport and still not working....,
> may next week we heard of four of five ministries decree.
>
> Hopefully, I was wrong !!
>
> Harun al-Rasyid S. Lubis             http://trans.si.itb.ac.id
> Traffic Lab, Transport Engineering Division
> Dept. of Civil Engineering - ITB
> Jl. Ganeca 10 Bandung 40132 - Indonesia
> Tel/Facs. +62 22  250 23 50  halubis at trans.si.itb.ac.id
>
>